The Dark Knight Returns

owly · Post by **owly** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:20 am

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owly · Post by **owly** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:00 am

i'm not sure i'm ready for another joker, are you?

Post by **Gili** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:29 am

Nagash · Post by **Nagash** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:43 pm

She's prettier than Ledger, that's for sure.

Gem · Post by **Gem** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:21 pm

Okay I'm totally confused, the article says that poster may very well be fake. So why the big deal? Also why does every one keep mentioning "another joker"?

Post by **Teanos** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:27 pm

Because nobody actually understands the Batman lore.

Plus, there is no poster or anything for the next movie, just that Nolan is supposedly directing it.

owly · Post by **owly** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:58 pm

True that's a 'what if' poster.....

Gem · Post by **Gem** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:10 am

Teanos wrote:Because nobody actually understands the Batman lore.

Plus, there is no poster or anything for the next movie, just that Nolan is supposedly directing it.

lol, I saw that and instantly though of Harley Quinn and then I was like Kristen Bell as Harley Quinn...ew just no.

Post by **Teanos** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:17 am

Charlese Theron would be a good Harley Quinn.

But I have to think that if they are going to release another one, it will be another character all together. They will do the 'safe' movie without a joker reference or associate, and then if there is a fourth movie, do something with the joker character and/or Harley Quinn.

Most likely they will either have to get someone who has alot of drawing power, or they will see if the third movie makes enough money and if it does, take a gamble and do some unknown actress or try the unthinkable and replace Ledger's Joker with someone who can some what mimic it.

owly · Post by **owly** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:03 am

Teanos wrote:or try the unthinkable and replace Ledger's Joker with someone who can some what mimic it.

That's no easy task.......

bvaughan · Post by **bvaughan** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:12 am

Yeah that would be pretty difficult, I never really cared for him as an actor until that role. I doubt anyone could pull that off as well as he did

Post by **Teanos** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:38 am

It was definately a great role he put on, but keep in mind that people said Michael Keaton could not be replaced as Batman, and I think Bale has done a good job with this version of it. Also they said the same thing about Jack as the Joker, and Ledger pulled it off.

There are alot of talented actors out there, someone can mimic or portray the Joker the same as Ledger, its just a matter of if and when they really want to go there. I agree with alot of the fanboi's in that they should make a 3rd movie with a different set of villans, and see how it draws. If it does steller, they can consider revisting the Joker and/or Quinn role and see what happens.

If its reached the end of its course, then they don't have to worry about it.

asoc · Post by **asoc** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:34 am

I don't think you want someone to do the Joker the same as Ledger. But rather someone who can make the Joker their own the same way Ledger did.

owly · Post by **owly** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:43 pm

Maybe they should bring in the 'Riddler' or 'Penguin'. i like what asoc said......

Gem · Post by **Gem** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:46 pm

I will always prefer my Jokers like Ledger's, you know the beat Robin to death with a pipe crazy kind. Not the cartoon-y cackle-y Jack Nicholson kind.

I wouldn't mind the riddler however for the love of god no catwoman. Blagh.

Gerien · Post by **Gerien** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:34 am

Harley could work if the writers successfully explained why she wasn't there in the Dark Knight movie. If the actress was right (hard job given Ledger's role as Joker) then they could create enough buzz for even another movie.

Post by **Teanos** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:36 pm

I don't think Catwomen could work in the movie setting they have. They basically need 2-3 really good arch villans, catwomen isn't really that, she was never evil enough to kill/maim/slaughter, etc. She just stole, and toyed with batman. Seems kinda cartoony to me.

Nolan (director) said he will never do a penguin villian if he is directing it. So that is out.
I would have to guess for the same reasons.

Rumor has it The Riddler is next, and I could see it if they do the dark style riddler like they did with the joker.
Not sure what other villians they can come up with though.

owly · Post by **owly** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:57 pm

Teanos wrote:Not sure what other villians they can come up with though.

They have the whole DC comic world that they can choose from.....

Gem · Post by **Gem** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:00 pm

Teanos wrote:I don't think Catwomen could work in the movie setting they have. They basically need 2-3 really good arch villans, catwomen isn't really that, she was never evil enough to kill/maim/slaughter, etc. She just stole, and toyed with batman. Seems kinda cartoony to me.

Nolan (director) said he will never do a penguin villian if he is directing it. So that is out.
I would have to guess for the same reasons.

Rumor has it The Riddler is next, and I could see it if they do the dark style riddler like they did with the joker.
Not sure what other villians they can come up with though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_villains

Anyone on that list.

owly · Post by **owly** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:08 am

Good find Gem

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