EMPIRE Strikes LAW

[clark kent]

17 and 7 aren't the same time btw...It was ~14 hours between the scribe and the burning.

yah my mistake...i have to sleep after they burned down my kdom and so i missed the warchat and action lol. when i awoke knowingly they started already and that was 5-6hours after and i still had that double vision and forgot to wear my glasses .

we already seen it comming and mind you, our kdoms scout report were always a day new. But that's ok since it was good, an unseen scouting/looting so we just waited. now this time, after a seen scout sweep 14hours after followed by burning/looting i don't think we can just wait again.

[Aeyliea]

Good for you, sparky.

[Kaz]

I'm getting bored of grabbing starting stats from the back-end, please can everyone try and remember to grab them at the beginning. Need to finish the UB that works on guild scrolls and wars like UB Solo does for kingdom scrolls and wars.

2013-06-28 04:08:15 UTC
LOST AVENGING WANDERER (LAW)
Angelique
8/8
Networth:5,371,856
Land:208,678
Built:200,442
Land Score (Land+Built)409,120
Avg. Net:671,482
Avg. Land:26,085
Avg. Built:25,056
Avg. Land Score:51,140

2013-06-28 04:08:15 UTC
THE FIRST EMPIRE (Empire)
Leto
9/9
Networth:4,278,722
Land:169,766
Built:167,253
Land Score (Land+Built)337,019
Avg. Net:475,414
Avg. Land:18,863
Avg. Built:18,584
Avg. Land Score:37,447

[Gili]

I already posted some from within the game - twas just the average lands/networth but was from within the game. If folks don't have them from within the game then tough poopie

[Sideon]

You can call it land grab and other BS thingy but for angelique its justice.

How about this. Its been 24 hours since Fireslash sent that scribe but he didnt manage to restore his other kingdom, Why? Because 14 hrs later he did burning and looting. Is that make sense to you?

[Ricardo]

I have a had a drink and can definitely recommend it Ken;
Gili you have only had a bad afternoon as you have been forced to work rather than be in the pub in a Friday afternoon

[Gili]

pretty much. Had it all planned out, some guilds fun....then to the pub early. booo! I've had some meads since so all is right in the world

[Aeyliea]

He didn't restore because he quit the game. Like me. I am disappointed that Igneous would do what he did, but that is not a justification to downhit at will. However, the point is moot.

Enjoy your game guys. I'll poke in to see what other crumby tactics you've devised since this, even if it is an old trick. Enjoy the land and another Angelique age victory....nice to see that you always win, even if you have to play dirty to do it.

Also, next time try something called diplomacy. If you'd talked to me first I woulda booted Igneous and you woulda had him and his land for his breaking of guild policy.

Instead, you get the entire guild up to the point it disbanded, and now you have at least 2 fewer players. Way to go, kids, way to go.

[Darnivan]

Well, if Igneous burned them then, yes that is justification for a war...since Igneous started one. That is an act of war. It is meant to be done stealthily, but if found out the victim has right to any form of retaliation or diplomacy as they desire. It sucks to get pulled into a war because someone else if your guild did something without permission and was caught, but retaliation strikes don't have to be up hits, they didn't start the war and it sounds like this war has been actually going on for a few days before they figured out who to go after.

While people often get away with slaps on the wrist for scum actions gone wrong, that is usually because neither side wants a full blown war and try to resolve it that way, not because it wasn't an act of war. This case it actually would appear that this looting and burning was prep work for a full scale assault based on the stats and it would make sense for LAW to fight back.

[Aeyliea]

Don't care. LAW will reap their rewards, but it won't be because of me. Tata

[clark kent]

So sad to see how time changes how we play a game like these and how we react to circumstance. Back in the old days, it would have fueled fire ingame and in the forum(nothing personal as needed) but it's hard for me to see a shitty hit which most of you describe results to disbandment.

Anyway, i don't know about Igneous, your member, but what he did was beyond something a diplomacy calls can help especially in our given situation. We were sitting, waiting long enough and it's really hard to choose a good war for another uphit so actually we were discussing/concluding it while my kingdom was burned/looted at the same time. LAW was supposed to take the reds but with a number twice than us just to add another good war. Only Empire scout swept(seen) us 14hours from it but I think Sideon would have let it passed if it was just a simple looting but still, i don't know, coz that would be 1-less kingdom for us going against heathens twice our numbers. Maybe we felt our hit was inevitable or premature but that burning set aside looting is a guild plan and we can't afford to make a call for diplomacy at such situation. It was our quick intuition that actually led us to hit you guys and i'm sorry to hear now that such plan was not yet set in motion by your guild but we knew too well an act like those are enough to justify the hit and the 'lame title' you guys pressumed. But still, we're supposed to be making wars to bring excitement/hunger/fire back in this game and not to totally quit so i hope you guys hang on there.

[Aeyliea]

Ok, like I have tried to avoid it, but I am mad at your idiocy.

ONE. I always post a thread BEFORE striking.

TWO. I ALWAYS save scouts and burns until MINUTES before a strike, to prevent an enemy from catching wind of us.

THREE. You got tired of waiting, had a better option, and took the easy way. Way to fucking go.

Incite passion? This kind of stupid shit NEVER incited passion, it incited rage. It led to feuds and bickering, flaming wars, OOC insults and threats. Apparently I am so fucking old I forget these things, but then again I am also so fucking incompetant that I can't run my own guild so I guess it goes with the territory.

If you are so damned convinced you were in the right, quit trying to spin it. Your explanation only proves you KNOW it was wrong but did it anyway.

Fuck this, I ain't even going to read this shit anymore. I held my temper as long as I could, but you may as well just fucking ban me right now. End transmission. Have a great fucking life.

[Kensington]

Aeyliea, come back please.

This kind of shit always happened but with a smaller player base it just comes home to roost a little more. The more guilds we have the better the game, talk with the rest of the faith our doors our open, we shall not stand idle by, retribution shall be felt.
If you were over in old blighty I will have invited you out for beers by now.

[Stee Jans]

Well, it's comforting to know that you were planning to hit Barnabas until this happened. Especially given that TFC just left a seriously damaging war with POO.

[Jokingjoe]

Seska--I hope you'll continue in Bloodbath--I could use all the help I can get uprooting the Letos

[clark kent]

Well, it's comforting to know that you were planning to hit Barnabas until this happened. Especially given that TFC just left a seriously damaging war with POO.

We were planning/conlcuding it to take you guys on when you(TFC) fully recovers + SW. we were watching the numbers and growth. It is an exciting war for us win or loss...but still, Sideon is the last word.

[Sideon]

I just to clarify that we wernt planning to hit that night. I just want to build coz I know that NIR is a bigger threat to you than us. But when I see the scout sweeping, looting and burning, thats the time i decided to press the war button. As for SW + TFC against us, thats our future plan maybe after a week and has nothing to do with this.

Is sad that our action lead to Empire disbandment, maybe we might disband as well.

[clark kent]

Ok, like I have tried to avoid it, but I am mad at your idiocy.

ONE. I always post a thread BEFORE striking.

TWO. I ALWAYS save scouts and burns until MINUTES before a strike, to prevent an enemy from catching wind of us.

THREE. You got tired of waiting, had a better option, and took the easy way. Way to fucking go.

Incite passion? This kind of stupid shit NEVER incited passion, it incited rage. It led to feuds and bickering, flaming wars, OOC insults and threats. Apparently I am so fucking old I forget these things, but then again I am also so fucking incompetant that I can't run my own guild so I guess it goes with the territory.

If you are so damned convinced you were in the right, quit trying to spin it. Your explanation only proves you KNOW it was wrong but did it anyway.

Fuck this, I ain't even going to read this shit anymore. I held my temper as long as I could, but you may as well just fucking ban me right now. End transmission. Have a great fucking life.

i'm just trying to make it ingame but it seems you have some problem or two and it didn't get in your way hmm...as for idiocy, i'm not fit to go there.

I won't even bother to engage in those 123 of yours since its yours and mine is different and actually i'm not leading the guild. So yes, we got tired of waiting patiently with your everyday scouts and looting on us and finally you guys slipped and yah you have Igneous for to blame. We had a plan and we didn't look for an easy way. Your member was caught scout-sweeping us 14hours before his follow up burn/loot act and you guys never fluffed up for DEF just for precaution or that option of yours for diplomacy?

So much for calling us kids with your justification thru quitting...last post for you mate.

[riseendreev]

Darnivan, thank you.

That clears everything.

And for Gili, I'll drink with you today and look at the other side of the window... And thanks too, for admiring my beautification skills...

[Igneous]

I heard someone say my name....
Clarifying question LAW:
So, are you basically saying, "You took my monies!" ?