Numbers (split from politics)

[Aeropagitica]

A little off topic, but slightly related to numbers, does anyone know who the 4 unguilded angie kingdoms (I say unguilded since they are not in BAN and have far more land than all of AoA) in the top 10 are?

As stated in another thread, Shadow guilds do not exist. They are a political misdirect, designed to distract you from the real issues at hand. Any statement that 4 kingdoms are unguilded is simply a statistical error and should be construed as such. Any attempt to discern the error could prove harmful to said scouting kingdom's well being. I did notice the Cult of Maverick was about fully built and will probably be looking to pick a fight soon. Focus on the real issues.

[Jokingjoe]

Yeah..real issues--and stuff

[Igneous]

Yup.

[Darnivan]

Just interesting that 4 kingdoms averaging around 40k acres each could go unnoticed so long. Specially after they smashed so many of the leto kingdoms after they were unguilded after that fiasco.

[Aeyliea]

Its not at all hard to see it. The only two faiths big enough to scout them are their own and the letites, which are still digesting the carrion they had been feasting on previously.

I damn sure am surprised to hear that there are 4 unguilded averaging 40K. THis is news to me. Maybe its because we don't have scummers capable of piercing that shield.... -.-

[Maverick]

Yeah everyone should worry about the guild that has taken 0 unprovoked offensive action.

Come on Aero, I know you are afraid that one day you are going to log on and youre 40k will be donated, but that is the reason you need to put on a guild tag so that youre not fair game.

[Aeropagitica]

Mav i know the truth: i will always be fair game.
but this thread spawned from the politics thread and believe you me i like playing in politics. Besides i like a challenge.
What darnivan failed to recognize is that my kingdom drew first blood on the letos. I payed for my sins but he is correct in that i, like some others, did surely capitalize on the anarchy following Masta's self imposed exile.
I may be cut down in the coming days but i intend to absorb a sh!t-ton of turns!
And heck yeah will i deflect my enemies elsewhere. Fog of war!

[Igneous]

Psh, 0 unprovoked actions. heh. :0)

[Gili]

A faith move done by admin, well, I dunno, extreme circumstances maybe? .. But then what would those be?
RP those moves, then I can see it.

We were considering methods of getting the age going again...its gone a bit stale. Tradition says we should just sweep down the scrolls crushing all heathens...but i (and i assume we) always hated that. I guess had we done that and crushed everyone beyond hope...maybe we might have convinced Kaz for a reset. But it brings bad blood to.

We liked the idea of a Booze versus Noise civil war (yes with some brief light hearted RP) where we'd split into two guilds and hit the shit out of each other. The problem would be if one side clearly won, probably the one i wasn't on, they'd be even bigger and yet even less likely to be hit.

Sounds like a couple of people are sizing us up, certainly seeing some interesting postures out there. We've even had an overt act of aggression on us by one guilded realm.

[Jokingjoe]

I hate it when Aey eyes me up and down like that --as if I'm nothing but a piece of meat!

[Nether]

My issue is do I start a war thats a borderline down hit or jump into a war I know I wont win and risk putting everything further out of reach.

[Kaz]

My issue is do I start a war thats a borderline down hit or jump into a war I know I wont win and risk putting everything further out of reach.

At the moment I reckon you're in the best spot of everybody. You've got 4 war choices really.

Huge uphit on BAN, giving away numbers, total net, total land, total built, avg net, avg land avg built that you'd probably lose

Reasonable hit on CoM giving away numbers, total net, total land, total built but having avg net, avg land avg built in your favour (by a little bit) all well within the 90% 'fair' downhit mark used for kingdom wars. Might win, might lose.

Down hit on Empire giving away numbers but having everything else in your favour (possibly pulling SW in to 'even things up') generally a poor choice, that you'd likely win.

Or the BAN vs everyone else war, but the other way round. You'd also probably win, then get mashed by your 'allies'. Would be interesting though lol would remind me a little of the first age of Valid.

[Dauthi]

Someone needs to do something...

I've gone almost a full week, with out even so much as a hit on my realms, and everyones built up to the point that I can't hit them... I've resorted to finishing off the NPC's come guys do something.

[Gili]

Someone needs to do something...

I've gone almost a full week, with out even so much as a hit on my realms, and everyones built up to the point that I can't hit them... I've resorted to finishing off the NPC's come guys do something.

I think this a major issue currently. We've been building since something like 9th Feb...and VERY bored. Understandably others are delaying there hits on us, but we're just building more

Perhaps we need a victory condition...although we only won one war but i think most were late to the game

[Jokingjoe]

In DOM, Kaz always said if someone declared victory on the boards and no one contested it, he'd end it and restart.

Are you declaring victory?

[Gili]

Yes

[Jokingjoe]

Kaz, you better give me 24 hrs notice before you call it so I can have a run at Pistol

[Igneous]

::tickles Seska::

Muahahahahaha.

Hi.

[Pistol]

hmmmmmmm now thats not very nice :-p Im starting to think your a bully Joe - terrorising my kingdoms in Domination and now you want to start in the Guilds game :-p

Im still relearning too so dont expect much of a challenge

[Vilena]

I'd take a run at the supposed big unguilded kingdoms before I called the game quits.
Myself. ...just a thought.
Also, a civil war I could completely get behind.
Seems like there was a time during the Mo'Pri/Maxim/Valid/Covenent eras that players were able to attack same-faith. ...or maybe it was in Outcast. hmmm still an interesting idea tho.